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The Controversial Jesus: Defiance

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Discussing THE CONTROVERSIAL JESUS - “ Defiance� message by Erwin McManus.

Featuring Odd Thomas

16 Responses to “The Controversial Jesus: Defiance”

1. Anne
   Jun 8th, 2006 at 5:28 am

   well… I’m glad I found this page and listened to this podcast - thanks for your work: you’re both doing a great job, the Lord and you, erwin.

   this summer, we’re having a teenage camp with about 30 pupils in sweden… just 2 weeks… to tell them everything we know about god and his love for them… to live with them showing his love… as far as it is possible for us- but the Lord will do his own thing :-)

   It’s gonna be my turn to talk about “the controver sial jesus” who brings not peace, but the sword… and I thought it would be a tough thing to talk about (and, yeah, it still is!), but you found an inspiring way doing that -
   thanks!

   besides: I have lots of discussions with my friends at university… I hope I will remember your words of “God having no the slightest intention to prove himself but to reveal himself” the next time!

   greats from germany-
   lord bless you richly!

   …and sorry for my poor english! ;-)

2. LyLa L.
   Jun 8th, 2006 at 9:56 am

   Sunday’s message on Defiance was by far the most heart wrenching message yet. I am throughly confident the Spirit of the Lord is here and in this place. Erwin has a remarkable way of delivering this message, not to mention, all of the messages I have witnessed. And to complete the message with a visual with a production of dance, poetic rap and music still lives in the forefront of my mind. It was dynamically depicted.

3. Eugene Booyens
   Jun 8th, 2006 at 8:55 pm

   Awesome! I’m looking forward to giving this to some of my Catholic friends that are spiritually dead - sure to bring back the life and hope that God really loves THEM!

4. Ryan
   Jun 9th, 2006 at 3:42 am

   Man……Controversial Jesus. Isn’t he great. Who was the hip hop artist that was on this latest msg?

5. Tiv M
   Jun 9th, 2006 at 5:12 am

   ..my sister is catholic and we need to remember not to weild the sword out of the context of love..Eugene..
   The whole theme here at mosaic seems to be to be the barbarian way and break away from religion which is great but at the top of this page you;ll notice it says a community of Faith, Love and Hope..
   Erwin says somewhere that these are our weapons..
   Faith love and hope .. 1st Corinthians 13 says we are nothing without love ..I was reading John 17 in my devotional this morning and it was like I was reading it for the first time..Jesus brought love..Jesus is love ..
   of course Hebrews 4-12 gives us: For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
   (King James version is a bit better..alas)
   ..so yeah point being we are to love and we are to tell truth.. in a balanced way ..
   thanks for your blog Eugene ..really resonate with your thoughts..
   I wonder if that rap song can be dowloaded at itunes ? loved it. Blessings.

6. Albert
   Jun 9th, 2006 at 12:29 pm

   Is there a video podcast for this one and last week’s gathering?

7. admin
   Jun 9th, 2006 at 1:32 pm

   we had some difficulties launching them at the same time, but the video podcast for both messages will be available today.

8. JMC
   Jun 11th, 2006 at 8:16 pm

   I am working with an organization in Thailand called International Justice Mission and listen every week to the messges on my Ipod. Thanks. Who is the artist who did the song at the end of the “Defiance” message?

9. RCOnTheBottom@tbn
   Jun 12th, 2006 at 8:18 am

   “I’m your tele-evangelist” hits home. I could whine about my job and come to work everyday, complining that there is nothing I can do (here at TBN) but instead I show up and lead as best I can under poor, dysfunctional leadership. I’m a producer and director here at Trinity Broadcasting Network. My copy of “the barbarian way” sits on my desk and has been read by a few here on staff. (i’ve read it a couple of times myself) I let my mosaic podcast play at my desk and am encouraged by the message and hope that all on the outside is not like it is here at my desk.

   Pray for us here as we try to put out content that is truly Christ. We are working for change here. It is a daily battle. If you’ve forgotten to pray for us here, those of us who have been striving for change, those of us who constantly ask “is this what Jesus wants us to protray?”, then please, please do so. Many, many employees here do not doubt that one day the “house” will be cleaned out. Hopefully then the airwaves will be full of “how can we give to you” and not “how much more can you send us.” and if you think we (the people on the bottom, yeah there are only two groups, those in the family, and the rest of us scum) are making $$$, guess again. I quit my union job in Hollywood to be here. (High five figures to less than half) Not because I believe in what they are doing but in hopes of being a part of the force that makes change. It’s not fun and some of us have unpaid bills. Keep us in prayer. Thanks. I’ll be listening next week.

10. admin
    Jun 12th, 2006 at 10:04 am

    the artist who made “Television Evangelist” is Odd Thomas

11. K-Young
    Jun 12th, 2006 at 11:35 am

    This series is turning out to be one of my favorite, and I’ve been getting the podcasts since the day they came out. Great job!

12. Benn
    Jun 13th, 2006 at 2:53 am

    Odd Thomas is awesome. Great lyrics and flow. Shades of Zack de la Rocha.

    While the intensity of American Christian marketing isn’t felt here in New Zealand, we certainly have our own expressions that breed cynicism amongst the non-believing and the jaded Christian alike. Rob Bell poses the question, “How did so few [Christians] come to speak for so many” which confronts us(me) with the challenge of what are we(I) doing in defiance to the messages that grossly mis-portray Jesus and what He stands for. Erwin, (again!), does a perfect execution of balancing radicalism with an honest introspective look at the Western Christian culture we form a part of.

    I love getting this video podcast! It’s like being there but without the 12 hour commute.

13. Brad Ruggles
    Jun 15th, 2006 at 6:04 am

    What a great series! I loved the “Television Evangelist” performance by Odd Thomas! This has definitely provoked a lot of conversation here at our Church office.

    Thanks for “diving into this conversation.” You’re hitting the nail right on the head!

14. Duncan
    Jun 15th, 2006 at 9:30 pm

    I went to the conference that Erwin was recently speaking at in Christchurch, New Zealand and have been so blessed since discovering his podcasts.

    I just wanna say thanks so much, you are blessing (and challenging) me so much. I’m going to play the Odd Thomas song for our youth group as I know they’ll love it!

15. Jeff Daigle
    Jun 19th, 2006 at 10:27 am

    admin, i’m confused - the video podcast and the regular podcast are different than each other each week - i just noticed in on the “defiance” message. for instance, “television evangelist” is performed right after the opening prayer in the vcast, but is played near the end on the regular cast - why the differences???

16. admin
    Jun 19th, 2006 at 2:20 pm

    jeff,
    we do 6 celebrations on sunday. our best video equipment is at pasadena at the moment, so we usually do the video podcast from the very first 9am service there. however the audio is usually taken from the 5pm service at the mayan. being more of a night person, erwin is usually more energized by the time and vibe of the mayan. besides, by then, the message is more polished.